naming name notice december and january issue you the 100 biggest job creators in america. these are the 100 big pest and who are they? >> companies that are fast growing, i would say the most important thing. job creation always follows growth. that is something politician know. >> not just small companies, these are small and medium-sized companies as i remember the last time you were here, it is the bigger of the small that create the most? >> that's right. that's right. i would say the best answer is it's the fastest growing of them all. now, in this particular year, turned out to be a lot of medium-sized companies much the bulk of the companies on our biggest job creator list companies between 50 and 250 million in revenue. >> fairly sizeable companies and they created how many jobs, 75,000 -- >> 73,000 jobs. >> i was struck by how many of these companies that are job creators are not high-tech at all. your number one job creator manages janitorial and security service. >> that was one, they created 17,000 jobs, universal services of america. a lot of the job creators